By the way
I am not going to get offended, or, begin to act unbelievably defensive if I get a bunch of negative opinions, about how impossible it is to win 100%.
I'm open to any and all criticism. I have the heart of a prize fighter, ...being able to trade in the market, you need a strong heart, so, bring it on folks.
If not, let's just all make money!
I am not going to get offended, or, begin to act unbelievably defensive if I get a bunch of negative opinions, about how impossible it is to win 100%.
I'm open to any and all criticism. I have the heart of a prize fighter, ...being able to trade in the market, you need a strong heart, so, bring it on folks.
If not, let's just all make money!
Actually, your ridiculous claim is much more of a dead giveaway but the caps are very telling.
What is it with these thieves that they have to use caps to get their point across? Is there some sort of fleecing handbook and the #1 rule is that you must use caps or your point will get missed?
What is it with these thieves that they have to use caps to get their point across? Is there some sort of fleecing handbook and the #1 rule is that you must use caps or your point will get missed?
Magic, if you're on the level then I wish you and everyone who works with you nothing but the best.
I'm just calling it as I see it. Your claim falls a bit beyond outrageous. If what you say is true then you would be twice as wealthy and twice as popular than the Oracle of Omaha.
You are neither.
I'm just calling it as I see it. Your claim falls a bit beyond outrageous. If what you say is true then you would be twice as wealthy and twice as popular than the Oracle of Omaha.
You are neither.
Anyone could do this and just HOPE that their 3 trades work out so someone will invest. However, that sample size is WAY to small. Now, if we start talking about 40-50 trades, then maybe someone will be more interested.
I will also warn you about backtesting. It doesn't ALWAYS work in the future. It's akin to saying that the Patriots can't lose because they are 15-0. How big was your sample size in backtesting, and what kind of parameters did you use?
I will also warn you about backtesting. It doesn't ALWAYS work in the future. It's akin to saying that the Patriots can't lose because they are 15-0. How big was your sample size in backtesting, and what kind of parameters did you use?
Well
Well, first, tw, I'm definitely not from nigeria boss.
I can assure you that. I'm right here in brooklyn, and, I'm working with a client right now, I've room for only 2 more, who I've met in person. I don't deal with anyone who's not local, or at least, I can meet in person before we deal with each other, you know? Makes us both feel more comfortable.
I can't see where I'm failing in my grammar. Sure, I'm educated,....shouldn't every american who respects the education system (that is given to them, with less of a problem as it may be, if I were born in a third world country) ....be educated?
I tell you what tw, ....e-mail me, I'll exchange numbers with you...and after we hold a decent timed conversation over the phone, you tell me if I have the english language "mixed" up, and...or, if I sound nigerian. That's not a challenge, just a suggestion, you know?
But, don't get me wrong, I see where the skepticism has much room for grace. I mean, some random fella comes on here, claiming to win 100%,...c'mon be serious, right? But, in any case, any one who goes to work with this with me,....I get nothing until I perform. Nothing. I don't see any room for scam.
To waz, well sure, you make sense. But, what's the point? My system delivers very low profits. Sometimes 1.6%. It's 100% yeah, but very low profits. So, .....even if I just got lucky 3 times in a row, and then lucky the 4th time.....I get only 40% commission from 1.6% profit? And then I run?
I don't get the logic in that. You know what I mean? Give 40-50 trades up front, free of commission? That's enough, even at 1-2% profit, to almost double up any sized bankroll. That's not how I do business, you know? I'm actually the one putting trust, that I'm going to get my commission after making someone money. You know? I'm not getting anything until I perform, past 3-4 trades, and then....only then, do I get, 40% from a winning trade. To go through all of that work, to swipe 40% commission and then run? I don't get it.... That's just my opinion.
I back tested this system for 6 years, with 100s of stocks. 15-0? My man, if it stops working, it has to be an act of god. I'm comfortable enough to put $1m on each trade. You know? I trade options for a living, but, I've never come across something like this. I'm not looking to start some sort of newlsletter, or charge for selections, or none of that nonsense. I'm looking to connect on a professional level, with 3 business savvy clients, who want to make some money with me, for a decent amount of time. I tell my clients up front, that after about 2 years or so....I'm going solo. I'll have made enough by then. So, there's no dishonesty there.
I tell them what the worst case scenario is up front....worst case scenario, is a trade is closed at the purchase price....no profit gained, no money lost. I tell them, if I'm not paid my commission one time, then you're done. Even, if they've been a client for a few months. I'm not here to play games, or deal with "I have financial obligations" stories. Deal with that before having me commit my time to trade for you, you know?
Why don't you contact me waz, and let's see if we can't connect on a serious, business level, and make something happen. You get your free 3-4 trades up front, no questions asked. After that, just like for any other client, I'm expecting 40% commission from the profits of each trade.
You guys think it's a scam? That's cool. I just hope you guys at least use the same energy to apologize, that you used to call my claims bs, and call me a scammer, when you see, a few months from now, that I am still here, and any clients I pull from this forum, are making good money with me.
Percocetthreat, my man, why do I have to be extremely rich and famous to have stumbled upon something really exceptional? I never said I traded this system for 6 years and made millions from it. My man, if I did, I would not be here posting, looking for a way to make some serious money off of it. Trust me,...if I didn't need some fellas, who carry some big $$$ weight, and I had that kind of cash myself, I would not be here. But, my man, no disrespect to you, ...but, if your logic is that, you have to be someone "known", or someone publicly "wealthy" to invent something that has not been invented before,...or to have figured something out, that no one else has figured out, then, ........... we're at a stalemate in this debate, you know?
Hey, here's a suggestion percocetthreat....this will work for you're statement too waz ..."HOPE that their 3 trades work out so someone will invest" We'll do this....waz, percocetthreat,...take my 3-4 trades trial....even if you're not planning to commit anything afterwards....just for debating purposes....you guys keep close in contact, and I will NOT give you two the same trades. I'll even let daytradernation (who is going to give this a go after the trial) know what's going on, and I will not give him the same trades as you percocetthreat, or you waz.
So, in all, I'm giving a free trial of 12 trades (3-4 free trades, times 3.....9-12) You guys game? The only way this will work is for all 3 of you, to keep close in contact....so that you can prove to each other, I am not giving you all the same trades.
This is how it will work....I'll send you two either sms messages, or, we can connect on yahoo messenger, and I will send you the buy alert when I buy into a trade, including the price of the stock I buy...and when I sell, I will send you the sell alert, including the price of the stock when I sell.... you will need a live streaming quote service, so you know the price of the stock in real time, when I buy and when I sell....delayed quotes, like, the yahoo finance section, will not work, because the quotes are delayed 20 minutes, you know? (daytradernation and I are going to use yahoo messenger)
Any of them are losers....come right on here, and say anything you want.
What do you think? I believe that will be the best thing for this debate. I hope you two are up for it.....you put in a bit of energy to make your statements here, ....it'll take LESS energy, to do what I'm suggesting. So, if you think about it, this debate is really at a stale mate now, until you guys take me up on my offer. If you don't take me up on this suggestion....your naysaying, will just come with "Why didn't you guys take him up on that offer?", you know? No disrespect, that's just what it is right now, that I've made this offer.
So, are you two game or what? As a matter of fact, why stop there. Twtb19, hop on, I'll even throw you in this deal. Making my free trades totaling 12-16. And you guys can keep in contact,.....if I give any of you the same trade, come on here, and say what you want. If any of loose, ANY one trade...come on here and say what you want. I'll keep copies of all the e-mails, yahoo messenger conversations, or sms messages we exchange, so one can cheat, and say something is not what it is, you know?
Let's do this guys. And, if you guys still aren't moved after those wins.....well, what can I do? I mean, even high profile public speakers can't convince the entire world, with just their word....I know I can't. And please, everyone who reads this, don't take this as an offer to get free trades. I'm only doing this for percocetthreat, tw, and waz, for debating purposes.
Happy holidays everyone.
Well, first, tw, I'm definitely not from nigeria boss.
I can assure you that. I'm right here in brooklyn, and, I'm working with a client right now, I've room for only 2 more, who I've met in person. I don't deal with anyone who's not local, or at least, I can meet in person before we deal with each other, you know? Makes us both feel more comfortable.
I can't see where I'm failing in my grammar. Sure, I'm educated,....shouldn't every american who respects the education system (that is given to them, with less of a problem as it may be, if I were born in a third world country) ....be educated?
I tell you what tw, ....e-mail me, I'll exchange numbers with you...and after we hold a decent timed conversation over the phone, you tell me if I have the english language "mixed" up, and...or, if I sound nigerian.
That's not a challenge, just a suggestion, you know?But, don't get me wrong, I see where the skepticism has much room for grace. I mean, some random fella comes on here, claiming to win 100%,...c'mon be serious, right? But, in any case, any one who goes to work with this with me,....I get nothing until I perform. Nothing. I don't see any room for scam.
To waz, well sure, you make sense. But, what's the point? My system delivers very low profits. Sometimes 1.6%. It's 100% yeah, but very low profits. So, .....even if I just got lucky 3 times in a row, and then lucky the 4th time.....I get only 40% commission from 1.6% profit? And then I run?
I don't get the logic in that. You know what I mean? Give 40-50 trades up front, free of commission? That's enough, even at 1-2% profit, to almost double up any sized bankroll. That's not how I do business, you know? I'm actually the one putting trust, that I'm going to get my commission after making someone money. You know? I'm not getting anything until I perform, past 3-4 trades, and then....only then, do I get, 40% from a winning trade. To go through all of that work, to swipe 40% commission and then run? I don't get it.... That's just my opinion.
I back tested this system for 6 years, with 100s of stocks. 15-0?
My man, if it stops working, it has to be an act of god. I'm comfortable enough to put $1m on each trade. You know? I trade options for a living, but, I've never come across something like this. I'm not looking to start some sort of newlsletter, or charge for selections, or none of that nonsense. I'm looking to connect on a professional level, with 3 business savvy clients, who want to make some money with me, for a decent amount of time. I tell my clients up front, that after about 2 years or so....I'm going solo. I'll have made enough by then. So, there's no dishonesty there.I tell them what the worst case scenario is up front....worst case scenario, is a trade is closed at the purchase price....no profit gained, no money lost. I tell them, if I'm not paid my commission one time, then you're done. Even, if they've been a client for a few months. I'm not here to play games, or deal with "I have financial obligations" stories. Deal with that before having me commit my time to trade for you, you know?
Why don't you contact me waz, and let's see if we can't connect on a serious, business level, and make something happen. You get your free 3-4 trades up front, no questions asked. After that, just like for any other client, I'm expecting 40% commission from the profits of each trade.
You guys think it's a scam? That's cool. I just hope you guys at least use the same energy to apologize, that you used to call my claims bs, and call me a scammer, when you see, a few months from now, that I am still here, and any clients I pull from this forum, are making good money with me.
Percocetthreat, my man, why do I have to be extremely rich and famous to have stumbled upon something really exceptional? I never said I traded this system for 6 years and made millions from it. My man, if I did, I would not be here posting, looking for a way to make some serious money off of it. Trust me,...if I didn't need some fellas, who carry some big $$$ weight, and I had that kind of cash myself, I would not be here. But, my man, no disrespect to you, ...but, if your logic is that, you have to be someone "known", or someone publicly "wealthy" to invent something that has not been invented before,...or to have figured something out, that no one else has figured out, then, ........... we're at a stalemate in this debate, you know?
Hey, here's a suggestion percocetthreat....this will work for you're statement too waz ..."HOPE that their 3 trades work out so someone will invest" We'll do this....waz, percocetthreat,...take my 3-4 trades trial....even if you're not planning to commit anything afterwards....just for debating purposes....you guys keep close in contact, and I will NOT give you two the same trades. I'll even let daytradernation (who is going to give this a go after the trial) know what's going on, and I will not give him the same trades as you percocetthreat, or you waz.
So, in all, I'm giving a free trial of 12 trades (3-4 free trades, times 3.....9-12) You guys game? The only way this will work is for all 3 of you, to keep close in contact....so that you can prove to each other, I am not giving you all the same trades.
This is how it will work....I'll send you two either sms messages, or, we can connect on yahoo messenger, and I will send you the buy alert when I buy into a trade, including the price of the stock I buy...and when I sell, I will send you the sell alert, including the price of the stock when I sell.... you will need a live streaming quote service, so you know the price of the stock in real time, when I buy and when I sell....delayed quotes, like, the yahoo finance section, will not work, because the quotes are delayed 20 minutes, you know? (daytradernation and I are going to use yahoo messenger)
Any of them are losers....come right on here, and say anything you want.
What do you think? I believe that will be the best thing for this debate. I hope you two are up for it.....you put in a bit of energy to make your statements here, ....it'll take LESS energy, to do what I'm suggesting. So, if you think about it, this debate is really at a stale mate now, until you guys take me up on my offer. If you don't take me up on this suggestion....your naysaying, will just come with "Why didn't you guys take him up on that offer?", you know? No disrespect, that's just what it is right now, that I've made this offer.
So, are you two game or what? As a matter of fact, why stop there. Twtb19, hop on, I'll even throw you in this deal. Making my free trades totaling 12-16. And you guys can keep in contact,.....if I give any of you the same trade, come on here, and say what you want. If any of loose, ANY one trade...come on here and say what you want. I'll keep copies of all the e-mails, yahoo messenger conversations, or sms messages we exchange, so one can cheat, and say something is not what it is, you know?
Let's do this guys. And, if you guys still aren't moved after those wins.....well, what can I do? I mean, even high profile public speakers can't convince the entire world, with just their word....I know I can't. And please, everyone who reads this, don't take this as an offer to get free trades. I'm only doing this for percocetthreat, tw, and waz, for debating purposes.
Happy holidays everyone.
Nothing personal magic but I am not giving you any of my contact info. Just post your trades on this board, why not?
Also, I did not mean to imply that someone has to be wealthy before they came up with the system. What I meant was that you would become extremely wealthy and popular if you used this system for any period of 3 months or greater. My god, if you hit 100% your money would grow so quickly you would not know what to do with it, even if you started with a modest amount. 12% or 7% or even 3% per trade would grow to a gigantic amount rather quickly, assuming you make more than a couple of trades per day and throw more than $1,000 behind each trade, increasing your trade amount as your money grows. (from what I gathered it sounds like you do 3-5 trades/day).
You would "become" extremely wealthy and extremely popular.
Most of the best ideas come from those who are poor simply because they have more of an incentive to work for it.
Regardless, good luck. I hope you are not full of shit and I hope you make people money.
Also, I did not mean to imply that someone has to be wealthy before they came up with the system. What I meant was that you would become extremely wealthy and popular if you used this system for any period of 3 months or greater. My god, if you hit 100% your money would grow so quickly you would not know what to do with it, even if you started with a modest amount. 12% or 7% or even 3% per trade would grow to a gigantic amount rather quickly, assuming you make more than a couple of trades per day and throw more than $1,000 behind each trade, increasing your trade amount as your money grows. (from what I gathered it sounds like you do 3-5 trades/day).
You would "become" extremely wealthy and extremely popular.
Most of the best ideas come from those who are poor simply because they have more of an incentive to work for it.
Regardless, good luck. I hope you are not full of shit and I hope you make people money.
My man, you have to pay attention to my introduction post, . I said 6-7 trades a month. Only way I can possibly trade 3-5 trades a day is if I have 3-5 bankrolls. I don't. If I'm working with $5k personally, and I put $5k on one trade....I'm left with zero to move to the next trade, until I'm finished with that one you know? I'm not posting any trades here to the public. That is giving trades away, to more people than I am going to commit to. You're telling me, you won't give up your e-mail address? So I can give you MY contact number? Or not even, so we can exchange messenger handles, and get the ball rolling on what I suggested for you, waz, and tw to do? I don't get that one...
Yeah, my personal account is going to grow....but, it's not going to grow to millions in 3 months. At 6-7 trades per month, with a lot of trades coming in at only 1.6% profit...some at 6-7% profit, yeah, SOME at 12%....can you see where it would be hard to reach millions, unless I am starting with a very high capital. But, why would I need to become popular? There's no need to be a celebrity when you make money.
So, are you game or what? Like I said, this debate is at a stalemate, unless you, waz and tw, can commit the same energy you three use to naysay here, ...and take me up on my offer.
And I appreciate the good luck wishes, ...definitely.
. I said 6-7 trades a month. Only way I can possibly trade 3-5 trades a day is if I have 3-5 bankrolls. I don't. If I'm working with $5k personally, and I put $5k on one trade....I'm left with zero to move to the next trade, until I'm finished with that one you know? I'm not posting any trades here to the public. That is giving trades away, to more people than I am going to commit to. You're telling me, you won't give up your e-mail address? So I can give you MY contact number? Or not even, so we can exchange messenger handles, and get the ball rolling on what I suggested for you, waz, and tw to do? I don't get that one...Yeah, my personal account is going to grow....but, it's not going to grow to millions in 3 months. At 6-7 trades per month, with a lot of trades coming in at only 1.6% profit...some at 6-7% profit, yeah, SOME at 12%....can you see where it would be hard to reach millions, unless I am starting with a very high capital. But, why would I need to become popular? There's no need to be a celebrity when you make money.
So, are you game or what? Like I said, this debate is at a stalemate, unless you, waz and tw, can commit the same energy you three use to naysay here, ...and take me up on my offer.
And I appreciate the good luck wishes, ...definitely.
Okay, I misinterpreted the amount of trades you make, my bad. Regardless, if you hit 100% there is no way you would go unnoticed. You would have done what NOBODY in the history of the stock market has done.
I am not giving you my e-mail because I do not want to get hammered with spam messages from every Tom, Dick, & Harry trying to sell me stock picks. I just don't trust you, don't take it the wrong way.
If other long-time posters on this forum are game then I am willing to take their word for the trades you give them.
I am not giving you my e-mail because I do not want to get hammered with spam messages from every Tom, Dick, & Harry trying to sell me stock picks. I just don't trust you, don't take it the wrong way.
If other long-time posters on this forum are game then I am willing to take their word for the trades you give them.
Alright boss
I'm not gonna drag you out of your safe zone my man,....that's your discretion if you think I'm gonna do something childish like, spamming you. If it's posting your e-mail on the forum you're worried about, my man, you can just e-mail me, I'll post my e-mail. I don't have a 'safe zone' I need to nestle in boss, ....no disrespect.
Long time forum members? We're on different mentalities my man. I wouldn't trust the owner of this forum with my home address, just because he's respected on this "internet forum", by other "internet forum members", you know what I'm talking about, even though he's been here for years I assume,....but I'd trust someone I've met in person, and get a feel for in real time, with my contact. Or, even someone who levels with me in a professional way, and they're a forum newbie.
You're telling me, forum history is a firm decision for you, when deciding who to do business with? Hey, everyone has their own opinions....
Hopefully waz and tw, don't find a way to back out of my offer,....would really just be illogical. You want to bash something, ...sure, go ahead, the forum is free to all open speech. But, when given the opportunity to either have more to bash about, or end up eating your own words....and you back out? My man....no disrespect, but, ....it's your "forum reputation" on the line.
If that matters to ya. Being that you are into long time forum history....I figure,...perhaps it should?
I may be wrong.
And, why, why, lol....why, do I need to worry about being noticed, or unnoticed. I'm into making money, to support myself, my family, and loved ones. I'm not looking to be a celebrity. I have a system that works, I'm excited (even more so, because I KNOW I am either the only one, or, one of the VERY few, that have discovered it), and I'm doing whatever I can, to take full advantage of it.
Anyway, we'll see what we can do.....but I'm definitely not just posting any trades here.
I'm not gonna drag you out of your safe zone my man,....that's your discretion if you think I'm gonna do something childish like, spamming you.
If it's posting your e-mail on the forum you're worried about, my man, you can just e-mail me, I'll post my e-mail. I don't have a 'safe zone' I need to nestle in boss, ....no disrespect.Long time forum members? We're on different mentalities my man. I wouldn't trust the owner of this forum with my home address, just because he's respected on this "internet forum", by other "internet forum members", you know what I'm talking about, even though he's been here for years I assume,....but I'd trust someone I've met in person, and get a feel for in real time, with my contact. Or, even someone who levels with me in a professional way, and they're a forum newbie.
You're telling me, forum history is a firm decision for you, when deciding who to do business with? Hey, everyone has their own opinions....
Hopefully waz and tw, don't find a way to back out of my offer,....would really just be illogical. You want to bash something, ...sure, go ahead, the forum is free to all open speech. But, when given the opportunity to either have more to bash about, or end up eating your own words....and you back out? My man....no disrespect, but, ....it's your "forum reputation" on the line.
If that matters to ya. Being that you are into long time forum history....I figure,...perhaps it should?
I may be wrong.
And, why, why, lol....why, do I need to worry about being noticed, or unnoticed. I'm into making money, to support myself, my family, and loved ones. I'm not looking to be a celebrity. I have a system that works, I'm excited (even more so, because I KNOW I am either the only one, or, one of the VERY few, that have discovered it), and I'm doing whatever I can, to take full advantage of it.
Anyway, we'll see what we can do.....but I'm definitely not just posting any trades here.
